Stanley Meyer Buggy Versions
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Here are some of the theories I have formed concerning Stanley Meyer’s earlier stages of development. Please keep in mind that these theories may or may not reflect what actually took place. They are the best that I was able to ascertain at the time of my extensive investigation into the Stanley Meyer's Water Fuel Cell technology.
Meyer’s Preliminary Stages Part I.
In the 1970's, Stanley Meyer set out to solve America's energy crisis around the time of a severe gasoline shortage due to an oil embargo which nearly crippled the United States.
Stan chose to study hydrogen on demand technology which entails extracting hydrogen from water and then burning the fuel in an internal combustion engine.
Previous to Stan's research, experimenters had never been able to extract hydrogen from water with less energy than the hydrogen could return. The under unity results were from conventional and even more efficient electrolytic cells.
The transaction (if you will) could be likened to a mining operation in which a $1 million dollar diamond could be extracted from a mountain side at the cost of $1.5 million dollars. And so, the price (in energy) to make hydrogen a viable fuel source eluded conventional science as it was an expensive fuel to produce for reasons already mentioned above.
In Stan’s early HHO research, he built many different cells with various different plate configurations to determine the ideal (most efficient) plate shape. He charted his results in the form of graphs for later comparisons. He determined the tubal array to be the most efficient design with regards to input power/gas production.
He also built a cell with adjustable plate spacing [photo & schematic at bottom of page] in order to determine the ideal plate gap/spacing between plates. This is where I believe he came up with the spacing for his famous demonstration cell you can see in his videos that was powered by an alternator.
And so Stan's early efforts resulted in the creation of the tubular cluster array [photo & schematic at bottom of page], which is also known as his demonstration cell. This was Stan's first giant milestone and breakthrough as this would lead to his first water powered internal combustion engine and vehicle. This is also the same apparatus that Meyer used to convince a reluctant U.S. Patent Office that his technology was in fact very real, leading to their awarding Stan his first patent on this revolutionary technology. One that possesses the potential to entirely replace all petroleum based fuels altogether while solving the global pollution problem simultaneously.
Meyer’s Preliminary Stages Part II.
Having achieved his breakthrough with his demonstration cell on a bench in his lab, Meyer prepares for the next step in his quest to exploit this new technology which is several hundred percent more efficient than Faraday electrolysis. In fact, the demonstration cell produces several hundred percent more energy than it consumes. It runs for hours without the temperature in the water bath rising. It uses very little current and basically utilizes almost entirely voltage potential in order to extract the hydrogen from ordinary tap water. Meyer had invented the voltage disassociation of the water molecule also proving that voltage alone is able to perform work.
Meyer decides to introduce the demonstration cell to an internal combustion engine which runs his dunebuggy vehicle. He chooses a four stroke, four cylinder carbureted Volkswagen engine as his first running prototype. The cell is setup on the ground near the rear of the vehicle [photos at the bottom of the page] and Stan manages to get the engine to idle using his 9 tube set fuel cell. Stan has his wife shoot a video of the vehicle idling on HHO in his own backyard. In the video, you can see the vehicle's gas tank laying in the yard having been removed prior to the demonstration.
Stan reaches his second major milestone. He has successfully run his dunebuggy engine powered solely by his water fuel cell. The exhaust is completely clear lacking any colored smoke whatsoever coming from the exhaust pipe. The beauty of this feat is that there is no hydrogen fuel tank/cylinder needed as the fuel cell produces the hydrogen on demand to run the engine.
(to be continued)
Meyer’s Preliminary Stages Part III.
Stan becomes ecstatic while his dune buggy runs solely on HHO as its fuel source, having been generated by the same demonstration cell that he used to convince the U.S. Patent Office to award him his patent. [link to the video: https://youtu.be/-EYvPQzpYJk
As great as this achievement was, Stan would discover that while the demonstration fuel cell would enable him to run his dunebuggy engine, it would only be able to run the engine at idle RPMs. The demonstration cell did not produce ample HHO gas in order to run the dunebuggy at full throttle under load. The engine would stall as it was starving for fuel at higher RPMs. He would need to come up with a solution to this problem if he was to drive the dunebuggy on the open highway beyond idle speed.
The second problem was that the cell was not yet mounted on the dunebuggy. It would need to be mounted on the rear of the dunebuggy in order to make the system completely portable.
Stan solves the first problem by building a second water fuel cell assembly that is much larger than the first one [photo at the bottom of the page]. It is equipped with additional tube sets inside in order to increase the volume of hydrogen production needed to meet the fuel demands of the dunebuggy engine at higher RPMs.
Meyer solves the second problem by installing the controller, fuel cell, and alternator on the rear of his dunebuggy making his entire system completely portable [photos at the bottom of the page]. As Stan is able to solve these initial challenges, he then drives his dunebuggy on the open road to test and adjust his water fuel cell system.
So the Water Fuel Cell technology is born in Meyer's lab, moves to his backyard next to his dunebuggy to idle it and finally ends up mounted to the rear of the vehicle where it propels Stan down the open highway [photo at the bottom of the page].
(to be continued)
Meyer’s Preliminary Stages Part IV.
At this stage in the development of the Water Fuel Cell Technology, Meyer spends more and more time on the open road in order to perfect his on-board hydrogen-on-demand system. The prototype is a success and draws the attention of local and long distance interests.
Meyer is approached by a Lieutenant Colonel from the Pentagon with talks of using the technology in the U.S. Military. The technology comes complete with what is referred to as "Military Viability". There would be a whole gambit of possibilities Meyer's invention could be implemented in by a military customer which would lend a great advantage to any army over their enemies. The technology could be used for fueling army tanks, missiles, jeeps, armored vehicles, etc. The list would be a long one.
NASA had also shown a great interest in Meyer's technology. It is only in a closed door meeting that they would sign a contract with Meyer as to hide their involvement with him publicly. It would go on to be used secretly in deep space exploration without government oversight or even the public's knowledge to this day.
If you are a con man, the last entity you would want to defraud would be the U.S. government. If Meyer had perpetrated fraud against his own government, he would have surely ended up in a federal prison but such was not the case.
The multi-trillion dollar energy cartels certainly took notice of Stanley Meyer's invention as well. It was out of sheer terror that the oil industry would offer Meyer $1 billion dollars cash just to shelve the technology to insure it would never see the light of day. An offer a con man would have jumped at. To their startling amazement, Meyer would refuse their offer and any subsequent attempt to get him to sell out.
Meyer was featured in a story on Action 6 News in his native Ohio [link to video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a74uarqap2E ]. They would film Meyer testing his working prototype dunebuggy driving down the road running on nothing but water [photo at the bottom of this page]. The word about the work of inventor Stanley Meyer was starting to get significant notice. After all, the Water Fuel Cell Technology would not only change the United States. It would potentially change the entire world.
Stan Went on to Advance the Version of the Buggy much further He dedicated his life to do this and worked extremely hard day and night
Generation 1, 1984
This generation was (I believe) only capable of idling the buggy. It consisted of the demo tube cell with the alternator and electric motor turning the alternator. The electric motor was plugged directly into the house mains.
-Reference News Release # 1, Grove City Record
It is Suspected that but feeding in Hydrogen and Nitrogen in the right gaseous form and pressure
Ionized through epg before going to engine that they form NH3 and release electrons to the epg.
Stan May have started on that and than
advanced beyond that .
Generation 1.5 1984-85
EPG housing in place of the future red fuel tank. A curved top cell in place of the future VIC control box. Brake lights are mounted under the frame pipe. Possible head lights mounted under mirrors by the "doors".
This Generation incorporated the rejoinined of ehte Nitrogen and Hydrogen into the EPG to make pwer and USable
explosive fuel on demand.
Generation 2, 1985
This generation was used to show to the military and was shown on Channel 6 News from Columbus Ohio.
This generation was used for the first buggy road test and produced enough gas to run the dune buggy up to 55mph. It used a different WFC placed in a large container with a manual valve to control the engine speed.
This generation used the redline inverter, the ac motor and the alternator as well as a large box containing electronics controls (Likely a modified 8XA circuit as one can see a variac mounted on the box)
-Reference News Release # 2 and Channel 6 Columbus News Report
There are 2 roll bars on the "roof", just as in an original Berrien Buggy sand rail frame still available today.
These are also visible in the Generation 1.5
That looks like a blue electric motor.....runing an alternator...
I never noticed this before is that an electric motor runing an alternator in this picture?
Generation 2.5 1985 -1987
The 2 roll bars have been replaced by a single unbent roll bar down the middle. On the front, the buggy still has the original Berrien sand rail bumper and headlights. The hood has been modified by cutting it and installing a piano hinge. This allowed the hood to be opened while the GMS unit was installed in the windshield. The headlights under the mirrors are removed. A "Solar" and a #24 sticker is attached to the sides. The red fuel tank is installed, but appears to be in factory original condition, used for gasoline. GMS box is installed but seems like the rest of the system has not yet been installed. Picture Taken with Airplane. Beautiful Picture .
Generation 3, 1988
This generation used a WFC that was housed inside the water tank (and outside at times) as well as the hydrogen gas injectors and the Hydrogen Gas Management System (GMS). During this time many new components were introduced such as: the Gas Processor, The Laser Distributor, The Laser Accelerator, The electrostatic water filter, The differential solenoids, The exhaust regulator, and a new VIC which did not use the autotransformer and alternator.
-Reference It runs on water documentary, Tech Brief Memo 422, Wo patent Control and Driver Circuits
Brake lights are mounted above the frame pipe. GMS, VIC, and WFC pre-engineering phase boxes are installed.
Front bumper is replaced with a square low profile bumper. Headlights are replaced with rectangle bumper mounted versions.
Generation 4, 1992
This generation used the Water Fuel Injectors. Also the GMS unit was replaced with the Water Fuel Management System. The VIC was replaced with the Injector VIC (1 per injector).
-Reference Stan Meyer 1992 interview, Tech Brief Memo 423 & 425
Generation 5 1996 onward
This photo could be probably considered Generation 5 in my opinion, because it is from the estate sale. Parts have been removed. You can see the aluminum mounting plates where the 4 injector VIC coils would be mounted. The red fuel tank has been modified to fit the components for the water injector system. The tow-bar has been mounted to the back roll bars. GMS box has been removed from the windshield.
So far it looks like there were several different generations of the buggy.
If you have any more information on any of these generations please post what the info is and on what generation.
Hope this helps us all to learn more about Stan's tech.
Special Mention for Fire Pinto for the work on this thread. To preserve it
Now that we understand the major differences between different systems I have a question for you all:
What generations of the buggy have documented information that they ran on water?
As far as I know, the first generation only idled the buggy.
The second generation was able to run the buggy up to 55mph.
Then there was the generation which used the 3 inch tubes insulated with delrin plastic. As far as I know there is no documented information that this generation (or the generation which used the water fuel injectors) ever ran on water.
Skip to 15:10 for the injectors, how he turns them on one by one.
In short parts of this video you see/hear the dune buggy running on injectors.
Turn on the speakers and hear different RPMs during testing the engine. This version of the buggy, was the last version (red plastic water tank) with injectors.At 13:35 they have the scope sitting on an unmodified red gasoline fuel tank. I think this test was running on gasoline, but testing the timing of the generation 3 laser distributor electronics prior to installing the fancy VIC card cage.
I agree with you. I think they tested the systems using gasoline as a starting point. The control circuits even have switches for gas use if I remember correctly.
Now explain the experimental development stages that Stanley Meyer went through.
We see in stage I that Stan used 18 inch long stainless steel tubes with a modified heavy duty alternator.
And was able to idle the 1600 cc Volkswagen engine in the driveway.
Note: without water injection spark plugs, 660 nm LEDs gas processor on the intake and the recycled exhausts.
I believe Max Miller was able to achieve 300 V with his alternator demonstration on the 18 inch long stainless steel tube set.
Now in the 3rd stage, Stan abandoned the EPG.
And went back to elector-mechanical ROTOR PHASER.
Producing 3 pulse phases with 10 output channels .
With probably as many as 10 water fuel capacitors per output channel.
That would be 100 water fuel capacitors in all.
In stage IV the International Patent.
Stan went shorter stainless steel tubes and higher voltages.
Approximately 120 volts per inch on the T304 stainless steel.
4 inches=2020 volts
5 inches=1900 volts
6 inches=1780 volts
7 inches=1660 volts
8 inches=1440 volts
9 inches=1320 volts
12 inches= 960 volts
13 inches= 840 volts
14 inches= 720 volts
15 inches= 660 volts
16 inches= 540 volts
17 inches= 420 volts
18 inches= 300 volts
2.75 inches is the length T304 stainless steel that is used in the international patent.
120 volts per inch 1 on theT304 stainless steel.